Reflection On Bill Nye/Ken Ham Creation Debate

Pastor Lepley Reflection On Bill Nye/Ken Ham Creation Debate-

I appreciate Pastor Wren’s perspective on the recent debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye. I agree that debates seldom, if ever, change minds.  But they do offer platforms for further discussion. One of Bill Nye’s key claims, which he repeatedly made, was that the Bible never predicted anything that “science” has now revealed.  This untrue, and can be seen multiple places in the Bible.

When discussing universal inflation and Cosmic Background Radiation, it would have greatly helped Ham’s case if he pointed out that some 3,400 years ago, Moses recorded, that on the second day of creation, the universe “expanded.” That was “predictive,” since it was foretold by a prophet 3,400 years before a scientist happened to notice. The psalmist also described God, “covering [Him]self with light as with a garment, stretching out the heavens like a tent.” (Psalm 104:2, ESV)  “Stretching out” sounds like universal expansion or “inflation” to me.

We have multiple references in the Old Testament referring to the earth as a sphere, also “predictive.”  These passages were written thousands of years before Ferdinand Magellan was the first human being to sail around the world. The prophet Isaiah wrote, some 2,600+ years ago:

“It is he [God] who sits above the circle of the earth,

and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers;

who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,

and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;” (Isaiah 40:22, ESV)

(Note: Some dispute Isaiah’s authorship of his own book, but whether it was written between 600-700 BC or 200-300 BC, this passage was penned well before an explorer proved the world is a sphere.)

Job, quite possibly the oldest book in the Bible, also recorded:

“[God] has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters

at the boundary between light and darkness.” (Job 26:10, ESV)

These are just a few passages which accurately describe the nature of the universe and shape of the earth thousands of years before science “proved” either. Bill Nye only needs to correctly understand the first seven verses of the Bible to see the creation of light at the beginning (currently modeled by the secular Big Bang theory) and universal inflation/expansion clearly described as tools used by God in the creation of all things. This is “predictive,” the sort of evidence Bill Nye said he would need to see in order to change his view of the Biblical creation narrative.

Faith and science come together in the Bible.  God has clearly revealed many “mysteries” of the natural realm to humanity in His Word, long before science first unraveled them.  A well-educated Christian, who is versed in scripture and the sciences, is the opposite of ignorant (something Bill Nye insisted upon throughout the debate).  In my humble opinion, well-educated Christians are in the best place to answer the most-important question about life-

The question about origins, “Where did I come from?”

The question regarding purpose, “Who am I?”

The question of destiny, “Where am I going?”

If you’d like to get a copy of my book on a scientific look at the Biblical creation account, click here.

On Our Origins

I hope this debate gives Christians one more good reason to learn more about the scriptures and sciences.  Human beings are both physical and spiritual.  The world we live in is both/and (thank-you Ken Ham), not either/or (sorry Bill Nye).


bill-nye-ken-ham-debateReflections on the Creation/Evolution Debate

By Michael Wren

If you did not watch the debate, which took place at the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky, you can find the entire event on YouTube for a short time.  Like most debates, last night’s event featuring Bill Nye and Ken Ham is unlikely to change very many minds.  Debates generally don’t change very many minds.  However, if they are good debates, they bring the core issues to the fore for consideration and reflection.  This debate was no exception.  Neither Nye nor Ham had much chance of making an impression on the opposing constituency, but their debate was revealing.  Here are a few reflections.

1)      The question posed for debate favored Bill Nye from the start.  The question was “Is creation a viable model of human origins in today’s modern world?”  In a debate, the affirmative is always more difficult to defend than…

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One thought on “Reflection On Bill Nye/Ken Ham Creation Debate

  1. Chuck Moutoux February 6, 2014 at 12:56 pm Reply

    It should have been you, instead of Ken Ham debating with Bill Nye.

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